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Paul F. Risberg
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4/17/2001
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I have a 2000 Quad cab Dakota with 15 K and the front rotors are warped and had to be turned. Not covered by warranty. Anyone else? I think it is a rip off. Obvious defect, since nothing I did made them warp.
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kennungesser
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4/20/2001
23:48:44
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Go and check out the quick search and type in disks, this is a common problem for all new vehicles, not just ours.Yup,I know, it sucks. I'v asked this question before, so you should be able to find the responces from my old post. Good luck!
Kenneth Lee Nungesser
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RonW
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4/24/2001
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Depends on your dealer. Most of the time they're covered if under 20k miles. If not, I would get Powerslot rotors with Raybestos pads. Can't go wrong there.
Ron
00 PB SLT QC 4X2 5.9 46RE 3.92 LSD
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sprocket
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5/18/2001
17:08:37
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I previously responded under warped brake drums, I have a 2000 dakota quad cab 4x4 and had the rotors replaced under warranty at 11,000 miles. service dept. stated they were out of spec. I returned to the dealer at 17,000 miles same problem they once again replaced them and told me to have my rear brakes adjusted every oil change said can't depend on self adjusters. well now at 24,000 the problems back and the dealer had to contact chrysler to see if they would be reimbursed chrysler agreed to pay for half and this would be the last time.
I went to my local wrench and explained what was going on he said he had a very close friend who was a service manager at a chrysler dealer and would see what he could find out. This is what he told me, this service manager ironically just returned from a brake seminar apparently it was brought up about all the problems the dakotas were having. chrysler denied there was a problem and claimed it was driving style one brave mechanic stated that they're alot of people out there who don't know how to drive. this service manager said there were two things to do one was call chrysler directly, I did they won't do anything, I even offered to let a rep put 7,000 miles on my truck just to prove it's not the way I drive they just blew me off. the second thing to do and this is from a service mgr., was to replace the front rotors with raysbestos rotors and pads. my mechanic told me he could fix my problem and guaranty it by going this route for about $400.00 the dealer wants approximately $150.00 for my half to replace the rotors with chrysler units. I afraid I'm just going to bite the bullet and spend the bucks. I guess I said enough, too much ?
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Paul Risberg
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5/18/2001
20:24:34
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Thanks to all who replied about Dakota rotors. An update: I tried to get Chrysler involved, they said there was NO service bulletin out, and with 17K miles, I was out of warranty. I also had a friend tell me about the same problem with his truck. They only charged $60.00 to turn and reinstall the rotors, but I'm guessing this will be a routine I'll have to get used to.
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Patrick ODay
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5/19/2001
02:50:53
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At 29K mine went to crap. Spoke to everyone I could corner at the dealer. No luck.
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Manuel
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5/22/2001
15:48:18
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30k replaced my rotors. They couldn't be resurfaced because that would take them out of specs. I had a friend help whos a big ford guy. He says fords have the same problem.
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cher0169
Dodge Dakota
5/31/2001
06:15:24
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I have a quad 2000 also. About 15 or 20,000 the rotors were warped. My husband blamed my driving. But thanks to you guys he beleives i did nothing wrong. Dealer won't help. Prob. get racing rotors they might hold up to '"my driving" thanks guys!!
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Ryan Kane
Dodge Dakota
6/11/2001
00:44:55
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Here is a great place to buy good rotors, and they can even cross drill or slot them for you, custom made.
www.brakeco.com
I bought some cheap Chinese alloy rotors from them, and they got me about 25,000 miles. They have great USA quality ones, too. They can usually beat any prices.
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Curious
Dodge Dakota
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4/15/2002
15:22:39
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Does anyone know what the Raysbestos material for the brake pads is made up of? Is there any Asbestos in them?
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Chris W
Dodge Dakota
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4/15/2002
23:21:46
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Hey guys, it's not a new thing. My rotors warped and I got a blown piston in my left caliper at 20,000miles. Damn dodge brakes.
And I have a 95 gen 2.
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Bill Wagner
Dodge Dakota
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11/01/2002
13:20:11
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I have a 2000 Caravan, so I know I'm on the worng web site. But the story is the same. 26,000 miles and the brakes on the front are shot, and the rotors are warped. The area I live in is flat and the tires are orignal. The dearler said there is no defect and so did Dodge after I Emailed them. Thanks for the chance to vent.
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PLow Dak
Dodge Dakota
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11/06/2002
18:52:13
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MMMMM Where to start. In ANY VEHICLE rotors are easiely warped. Here are a few tips to put the odds in YOUR favor.
1) NEVER use an impact wrench unless it has a torque stick on it. Every lug has to be the same torque. Use a torque wrench to tighten down the lugs at 20 FT LBS. intervals untill you get to your proper torque.
2) after you drive it for about 2 days recheck.
3) NEVER have a tire rotation done while the drivetrain is hot. Expanding metal on the hubs changes surface area tension.
4)If you have rotors turned, there is less metal to absorb heat. MORE of a chance to warp.
Weather can give rotors fits too. Hot rotors and a big rain puddle are not the best of friends. You can't avoid them, just be aware that there is more to a warped rotor than just a "CRAPPY BRAKE SYSTEM"
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mike farinella
Dodge Dakota
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12/04/2002
20:29:08
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I have a 2000 Quad and Im on the 4th set of rotors (33K miles). Im selling this peice of junk and am tired of getting the run aroung from Dodge!!!
Good luck everyone!!!
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DAKOTA QUAD 4WD
Dodge Dakota
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1/25/2003
11:18:20
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In reading what I've seen here I find I'm not alone. At 12,000 miles I had my rotors turned and new front brakes for 120.00. This blew my mind but I payed it. At 35,000 again I had the same problem but this time the service manager said my rotors would have to be replaced. this would only cost 320.00. I told him to put it back together I would fix it my self. Then I called a local parts store to find the rotors for 28.00 ea. and the brakes for 23.00 with lifetime warranty. This job I will learn to do myself since it has to be done every year.
P.S.
Service manager said he had never heard of Dakota's having any brake problems.
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Jay
Dodge Dakota
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6/02/2003
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On my 3rd set of rotors at 53k Mi. Brought it into a local brake chain shop and before I even got to the desk they said, "warped rotors?". I said you've heard about the DAK problems. The manager was going to turn them so I'd get a couple of warp-free months out of them before I go buy Power Slots. He said the standard after market rotors will warp as he's had one DAK customer return 4 times. Sloted or drill rotors with ceramic pads is what he recomends for the DAK Quads. He tried to get machining specs for the DAK rotors and couldn't get anything off the computer. Called the local Dodge boys and they gave no info when they heard it was a DAK Quad.
He ended up not doing them fearing liability.
It's nice to know I have a vehicle that people don't even want to attempt to service. Dodge knows there's a problem, yes it's expensive but at least offer a solution so people can drive safely.
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Paul F. Risberg
Dodge Dakota
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6/02/2003
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I'm not too proud to say I started this thread when I had 15 k on my Dakota Quad 4x4.
With 65 K here's what I've learned. This truly is not a parts defect problem. Read on! Dodge has designed and engineered a brake system that will not develop sufficient braking force through caliper pressure on the stock pads with out seriously overheating the OEM rotors.
1. The caliper pistons respond to the excellent booster pressure in the lines and exert the required hydraulic force to stop the vehicle adequatly. Quite well, in fact, for 2 tons +.
2. The rotors have insufficient mass and surface area to maintain a temperature below that at which warpage is likely to occur in any cast iron product, unless it is dead on in metalurgy characteristics and has been cured from green stock properly.
3. Here is a surprise. Softer pads may in fact be a quick and easy answer. They shed material and along with it, heat. They tend to be, for lack of a better word, more sticky. That is, they require less pressure to produce the same amount of friction or stopping power. That can result in less heat transfer into the rotor. They wear out faster. So what, I can do the discs in 25 Min. Guess what! Mopar does not sell any other formulation than stock. And whatever you guys do, do not use ceramic or titanium or any other long wearing pad. Go for the cheapest with the shortest guaranteed lifespan. These wear the fastest and will warp your rotors the least.
I replaced my rotors with slotted/drilled performance rotors from JC Whitney for 75$ a piece. I bought the cheapest pads at Autozone for 21$ a set. 30 K later, my brakes are fine. I spent 175 dollars, (after the two 60$ turnings at the dealer).
Did they do this because they are inept, cheap, or to reduce unsprung weight? Who knows, but they stuck it to us.
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Mike Hunt
Dodge Dakota
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6/02/2003
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Plow Dak, guys like you are so full of bullshlt. I've been driving for 25 years and I've owned probably 35 different vehicles. The 2 different Dakotas are the only vehicles I have ever owned that have warped the rotors. It has to be a design defect that DC is just not willing to acknowledge or correct.
Driving through puddles warps the rotors? Boy, do you work for DC's Customer Bullshlt Division or what? Never have a tire rotation...blah, blah, blah. You're just so full of bullshlt.
It's time for DC to pony up some dough for their poor brake design and at least offer an extended warranty like they had to with my Jeep Cherokee with Bendix ABS brakes and my Neon with the exploding head gasket.
Chrysler has always been renowned for crappy mechanicals and since the Daimler take over things have not changed one bit.
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Bobby
Dodge Dakota
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2/15/2004
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I have a 2000 Quad....I have powerstop rotors...I use full metalic pads...50,000 miles and no problem with rotors....had same on my 97 blazer....worth the money....get them at summit racing
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shadetree
Dodge Dakota
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2/16/2004
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Anyone who pays $400 for a front brake job has too much money. Anyone can do a brake job for $75-80 with premium parts. You guys spend all this time bling-blingin' your trucks and can't do the simplest brake job? I understand if it's under warranty and free but if they won't fix it do it yourself. And Mike Hunt your torpid idiocy is on the edge of mind boggling.
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Kellie
Dodge Dakota
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4/16/2004
19:09:26
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I have a 2001 Quad Cab with 15,000 miles on it. I Have been driving the same way for over 16 years. No speeding tickets, No hard stops at intersections or stop signs, No accidents. No problems. I have had three other vehicle, Jeeps. No problems with rotors or brakes on them. Decided to change to a Dakota. There's obviously a problem. I Took it to the dealer and was told my rotors were warped and needed to be turned. He also told me they were rusted. Asked me how long the vehicle had been sitting. Sitting? I told him it has been sitting long enough to work and come home, just like my jeeps had been. I asked him why would a 2 and 1/2 year old vehicle need to have the rotors turned. His reply was that it was quite common. That says there's a problem. He charged me 75 dollars. I told him I'll just drive it until I give it back in 2 months. I think it's ridiculous to pay for a known defect. Why should I have to pay for a defect or problem that they could have solved by using different rotors or brake pads when the truck was manufactured. The implication that it's the driver is a joke. I'm the only driver of this vehicle just like I was with the jeeps. To top that off, this is not the only problem that has occured with this Dakota. A/C fan motor stopped working, back hatch doesn't stay close unless you slam it hard. Unfortunately, I'm concerned about safety and will just have the rotors turned. However, I can see from all the other postings that I better think of replacing my pads and rotor with something better especially if I decide to keep the vehicle which at this point, I will have to think very hard about. I won't buy or lease another Dodge. Maybe it's time for a Chevy. Any suggestions on who to complain to and on whether Chevy's are having any problems with their rotors and brakes or anything else.
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