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Anthony
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2/02/2002
17:01:25

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I read this in the paper today, High Speed internet providers are going to start charging $80 to $100 A MONTH for the internet. (Cdn Price) I don't know what the prices are in the States.

The internet providers states that we are downloading to many things for free and we are taken up too much bandwidth. If this is the case, they can take my high speed modem and shove it up their $#@&ING ASS. I'll go back to dial-up.

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Anthony



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2/02/2002
17:06:59

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LOL! I thought that's what our monthly payment was paying for ... bandwidth!

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2/02/2002
18:05:51

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Well you are paying for bandwidth but think of it from their standpoint. They have to pay for their bandwidth too. If their customers are each using more bandwidth on average that means they have to purchase more themselves. This translates to higher costs on their end per customer. At this point they have 4 options...

1) Limit the max bandwidth per customer in hopes of lowering the average overall

2) Raise the monthly price for each customer

3) A combination of both by allowing different speeds at different prices

4) Keep everything the same while incurring increasing costs eventually going bankrupt and closing all operations like many dsl companies have.

The DSL connection that powers the dodgedakotas.com servers costs several hundred US Dollars a month. This is the real cost of bandwidth. Those $40/month deals are based on the assumption that most people only go online to check their email and maybe view a couple websites.

-Mark Hryckiewicz
1993 Sport RC SB 5.2L Auto

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2/02/2002
18:12:43

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I guess that'll teach them to "assume" anything!

I pay $50 a month for DSL on a 40,000' loop to the central office. I get no where NEAR the bandwidth that DSL provides due to the super long loop. Guess I'm just helping to lower the averages! hehehe

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2/02/2002
18:38:04

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at 40,000 pretty much all you can get is IDSL which is usually around 128Kbps to 160Kbps. WHat providor do you have?

-Mark Hryckiewicz
1993 Sport RC SB 5.2L Auto

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2/02/2002
18:53:09

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So what is the ADSL that I am on run at Mark?

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2/02/2002
19:10:06

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I can on occassion hit 1 mp download...usually 765K day in and day out.




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2/02/2002
20:15:11

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Just a local provider using Paradyne's ReachDSL equipment. I had 256k at the interface box, but my connection hops around from 192-256.

It's still faster than dialup ... for about the same as I was paying for a 2nd line and dialup service. Can't complain tooooooo much! ;o)

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2/04/2002
18:28:03

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it is so great to have a t1 connection. Im spoiled to it now. I have to go back home this summer and will have to go back to a dial up. But they are coming up with the satelite that is going to be around the same price as dsl



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2/04/2002
20:52:16

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I JUST installed cable today, how do you see how fast it transferring at?

Geoff

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2/05/2002
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Geoff,

Heres the site I use:

They put you in a que if theres alot of traffic but at least its free!
Also the cable company here wrote the test speeds right on my invoice when they installed it.




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2/05/2002
01:19:51

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Sorry wrong link, but the above link will make sure your Firewall is working! :)

Heres the right one:

DSL Reports



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2/05/2002
18:17:22

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is there no way to know what your specific computer is doing speed wise?

Like with dial up you could click on that icon and it would tell you your transfer rate and connection speed

Geoff

2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed 3.55
Airaid , Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster
Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley.
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Mark
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2/05/2002
20:51:48

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I used the speedtest at speedtest.dsl.net and it showed 90K per second at the new speed. Those other DSL REports and stuff arent really all that great. They fluctuate too much.

-Mark Hryckiewicz
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2/06/2002
09:39:21

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Ok I work for Earthlink in the Vendor Relations Department for ADSL lines.. I think I can pritty much cover all of the questions.

1. No there is no way to test your actual speed that you are connected to the CO. The only way you would know that is if you could get into who ever your ILEC's (phone company) system and find out your port speed. That's the connection speed that ADSL can reach upto. When you test your speed on DSL Reports it shows what speed your connected to them. So that adds alot more hops and slows your speed down. But that shows your true browsing speed.

2. Cable is actually alittle faster at downloading but slower at uploading the DSL. That's why most online game servers are on DSL but only the crappy ones are on Cable.

3. Blizzard can actually be on a ADSL line but SBC would have to be his local phone company. They would put him on "Project Pronto" which basically increases your distance to unlimited. Although your speed would suffer you could still get ADSL service.

4. DON'T GET SATALITE!!!!! OMG!! they at last coun't they had 2 satalites that Earthlink could use and one of the satalites was broken and being repaired and the other satalite wouldn't respond. It's like space cowboys.. but not. Anyway bottom line is don't get DirecPC for a while like a year. It's to new and VERY complicated. If for some reason you decide to get it anyway. Make SURE when the installer comes out to install your dish that you do NOT sign anything until you can connect to your internet using that satalite. They have been known to put in the hardware but not do the install correctly or use the wrong equipment and leave. Because you signed the paper they won't do anything else with out charging you. READ WHAT YOU SIGN!

I think that's everything let me know if you have any other questions about ADSL/Broadband.

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2/06/2002
09:57:09

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SDSL is the way for me. :-) I never had a problem in a year and a half. What speedtest does is download a 10MB file and you see the speed on your ftp screen. I ran this and it took 111 seconds to get 10,240,000 bytes. This is my max speed for the distance i'm at. The next upgrade will have to be a T1. :-(

-Mark Hryckiewicz
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2/06/2002
19:23:49

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I have TWC Roadrunner i used speedtest.net i downloaded 1 megabyte in 18 sec. (average of several attempts)

The upload speeds were all around 45 sec. for 1 megabyte with one "flyer" at 1:30

i can live with a MB in 18 seconds!! the best average throught a test was .502 mbps

Geoff

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2/06/2002
19:51:59

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I did the 1MB download and came up with 6.4 seconds. Did the 1MB upload 15.3 seconds not to bad IMO.

2001 RC 4.7 5sp 9.25" 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm throttle body, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" cold air, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat. Electric fan Convertion, Awaiting HO cams.
Working on adjustable fuel pressure with return.

Anthony
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2/06/2002
20:38:36

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I'm running a DSL line, I do a 1MB download in 8.18sec, with minor mods. LOL!!!
No joke, go to www.speedguide.net to get the tweaks to make your connection even faster. It's a very useful site. And it's FREEEE!!!!

Later,
Anthony
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2/09/2002
02:49:00

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Tried this site www.speedtest.com and got 1MB in around 2-5 seconds

But on www.speedtest.net 1MB stays around the 10-20 second range

THis is for cable, i wonder why the difference

Geoff

2000 3.9L RC Sport. Flame Red. 5-speed 3.55
Airaid , Vortex Muffler, F&B 48mm TB, 180 T-Stat, Autolite 3923s, IAT Adjuster
Clear Corners, SS Grill Insert, JBA Plug Wires, Underdrive Crank Pulley.
Hurst Competition Plus Shifter, Redline MTL & Gear Lube
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2/09/2002
06:16:12

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At work I an running 25Mbps (Megabits per second). At home I have test around 2.5Mbps download average throughput on my cable modem. My peak has been 2.9Mbps, and my lowest was 1.7Mbps. I tested using DSLReports and some network monitoring software I borrowed from work..he he ;-)

-Muzzy



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